Former Vt. Gov. Howard Dean makes his predictions for the Democratic Party in 2018 and what the party’s message should be.
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21 Comments

Raymond warren · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Oh I would really like to have the mainstream poll groups around when I do my Taxes. Ever wonder how Potus managed to go from 30% in the polls to becoming President in just a few hours last year?? Maybe they accidently reverse the numbers and it really reads 60% to 30%!!

Beyond Today · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

So…because they're loud…people think Progressives are taking over the party? Perhaps on the state level, like in Virginia (for the most part), which I would be completely in favor of, but not nationally. I supported Hillary Clinton last year, and watched as Sanders supporters ate up and regurgitated every single piece of fake news Russian-sponsored Wikileaks and bots put out about her. If Democrats run Bernie Sanders or some other far left candidate in 2020, we will have 4 more years of Donald Trump.

AZOffRoadster · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Franklin D. Roosevelt Letter to the Democratic Convention

July 18, 1940

Members of the Convention:

In the century in which we live, the Democratic Party has received the support of the electorate only when the party, with absolute clarity, has been the champion of progressive and liberal policies and principles of government.

The party has failed consistently when through political trading and chicanery it has fallen into the control of those interests, personal and financial, which think in terms of dollars instead of in terms of human values.

The Republican Party has made its nominations this year at the dictation of those who, we all know, always place money ahead of human progress.

The Democratic Convention, as appears clear from the events of today, is divided on this fundamental issue. Until the Democratic Party through this convention makes overwhelmingly clear its stand in favor of social progress and liberalism, and shakes off all the shackles of control fastened upon it by the forces of conservatism, reaction, and appeasement, it will not continue its march of victory.

It is without question that certain political influences pledged to reaction in domestic affairs and to appeasement in foreign affairs have been busily engaged behind the scenes in the promotion of discord since this Convention convened.

Under these circumstances, I cannot, in all honor, and will not, merely for political expediency, go along with the cheap bargaining and political maneuvering which have brought about party dissension in this convention.

It is best not to straddle ideals.

In these days of danger when democracy must be more than vigilant, there can be no connivance with the kind of politics which has internally weakened nations abroad before the enemy has struck from without.

It is best for America to have the fight out here and now.

I wish to give the Democratic Party the opportunity to make its historic decision clearly and without equivocation. The party must go wholly one way or wholly the other. It cannot face in both directions at the same time.

By declining the honor of the nomination for the presidency, I can restore that opportunity to the convention. I so do.

aneet reltub · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

PROGRESSIVES SHOULD START A NEW PARTY AND LEAVE THE DEMS BEHIND

rabbitmoon333 · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Dean needs to take his own advice and STFU and get out of the way….talking-again-from both sides of his mouth, crediting Sanders while dismissing his relevence all in the same word soup opinions. He's old. He's establishment Democrat. He needs to take a back seat, maybe convince Nancy Pelosi to do the same…invest even more of her time in face lifts and new hairdo's for her much needed retirement.

AZOffRoadster · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Dean at 4:12 'I'm not the president, and that's all you need'.
Boy, is he and all the corporate Dems going to be surprised when the progressives primary them all out of office.
So sad. Dean used to be ok, but then he drank that sweet corporate lobbyist kool-aid. I bet he thinks HRC was a great candidate.

eltsen nestle · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Dems are STILL watching the polls, and telling themselves how FAR ahead they are….

scotcampbellart · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Tulsi Gabbard 2018. Vote Justice Democrat! Corporate money out of politics.

BK Bland · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Postpose!

Shannon Bailey · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Watching Trump demolish every American democratic institution through the tyrannical power the presidency has, and the Republican sycophants lining their pockets at the public's expense while there is a serious discussion of whether he will win votes in 2018 makes you think that the American era and democracy on the world front is quickly coming to an end. They are like every other dynasty of that sort – destroyed by the rot and stupidity from within – not any threat from outside. The Russians and Chinese are thrilled!

tubularbill · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Medicare for all….who is going to really pay for it? Also who is going to put up with rationing?

Qinby 1 · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

This is a splendid plan
Have the same lobbyists plan the 2018 elections as nailed the Hillary victory….
It is values…. Yeah but somebody younger like Kamala Harris 54 or Kirsten Gillibrandt 52… "The spring chickens of the Corporate Democrats"

Roberto Loya · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Yyyreeeaaaahhhhh

skywriting33 · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Why no mention of Elizabeth Warren?

Armandhammer · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Howard Dean " Sometimes the country is more important than the party." "And then we're going to Washington and take back the White House. Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaw."

NO-ORWELLIAN Dystopia · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

They think they contain the keys to lock in-Party election defeat.

The New Poll Tax
Hundreds of thousands of Americans are being denied the right to vote because they are poor.

In nine states, Republican legislators have enacted laws that disenfranchise anyone with outstanding legal fees or court fines. For example, in Alabama more than 100,000 people who owe money – roughly 3 percent of the state’s voting-age population – have been struck from voting rolls.

This is unconstitutional. In 1964, the 24th amendment abolished the poll tax, a Jim Crow tactic used to bar poor blacks from voting.

These new laws are a modern reincarnation of that unconstitutional system, disproportionately disenfranchising people of color.

Income and wealth should have no bearing on the right to vote. Many Americans are struggling to make ends meet. But they still have a constitutional right to make their voices heard.

Preventing people from voting because they owe legal fees or court fines muzzle low-income Americans at a time in our nation’s history when the rich have more political power than ever.

These state laws are another form of voter suppression – like gerrymandering, voter ID requirements, and bars on anyone with felony convictions from voting.

We must not let them stand.

Fritz Karl · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Howard Dean is a total Hillbot. He should get out of the party in first place.
He supported old Hillary, who gave us Trump.

Wassily Kandinsky · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

The base of Trump is so pleased with him and we are pleased that this base is shrinking big time.

Nathan Logan-cooney · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Justice Democrats need to take the party over and force corporate Dems like Howard Dean OUT!

Everblue Freediving · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

….and the next scandal will be that the RNC worked w Russia to tip other US campaigns….

RoosterRage · December 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm

Once again, a corporate democrat that just doesn't get it. Dean honestly thinks that they won Alabama because of their policies, and not because of Moore… This shows how out of touch the democrats are with the population.

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